Previous entries:
What’s The Points
What’s The Points – China Update
What’s The Points – Spain Update
What’s The Points – Monaco Update
What’s The Points – Turkey Update
What’s The Points – Canada Update
What’s The Points – Valencia Update
What’s The Points – Great Britain Update
What’s The Points – Germany Update
What’s The Points – Hungary Update
What’s The Points – Belgium Update
What’s The Points – Italy Update
What’s The Points – Singapore Update
What’s The Points – Japan Update
Below is a comparison of the World Championship positions for this year’s points (left), last year’s points-system (middle) and the older 10-6-4-3-2-1 approach (right). Ties are decided by count-back.
1 | Alonso | 231 | Alonso | 93 | Alonso | 77 | ||||||
2 | Webber | 220 | Webber | 88 | Webber | 70 | ||||||
3 | Hamilton | 210 | Hamilton | 87 | Hamilton | 65 | ||||||
4 | Vettel | 206 | Vettel | 84 | Vettel | 64 | ||||||
5 | Button | 189 | Button | 77 | Button | 55 | ||||||
6 | Massa | 143 | Massa | 57 | Massa | 36 | ||||||
7 | Kubica | 124 | Kubica | 48 | Kubica | 24 | ||||||
8 | Rosberg | 122 | Rosberg | 47 | Rosberg | 24 | ||||||
9 | Schumacher | 66 | Schumacher | 23 | Schumacher | 11 | ||||||
10 | Barrichello | 47 | Barrichello | 15 | Barrichello | 6 |
A horrific race for RBR, with their first double-no-score of the season. With an eleven point lead, things look good for Alonso. If the Korea result were to be repeated in Brazil, Fernando would be World Champion. If Webber can win the remaining two races, that would put him on 270 which Alonso could not beat even if he finished second in both. As well as Alonso moving above Webber and Hamilton moving above Vettel, Kubica takes a place off non-finishing Rosberg in all three systems.
With all the top contenders having had such up-and-down seasons, it is not so surprising the top places are the same in all three systems, it was always unlikely that which of these points-regimes used would change the eventual ‘Champion, but for all three top-tens to be identical in order is unexpected. By this year’s points, Fernando’s lead over Webber is 44% of a race-win, last year’s points, 50% of a race-win, and 10-6-4-3-2-1, 70% of a race-win. Under the latter system, Button would be mathematically out of the chase.
Nineteen drivers have scored points in this year’s ‘Championship (all the drivers except those for the new-teams) , eighteen under 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 (Alguersuari is yet to finish top-eight). Liuzzi’s sixth-place brings up to fifteen those that have finished top-six this season.
This is the order purely on count-back.
Wins | Seconds | Thirds | Podiums | ||
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1 | Alonso | 5 | 2 | 2 | 9 |
2 | Webber | 4 | 3 | 2 | 9 |
3 | Hamilton | 3 | 4 | 1 | 8 |
4 | Vettel | 3 | 2 | 3 | 8 |
5 | Button | 2 | 3 | 1 | 6 |
6 | Massa | 2 | 3 | 5 | |
7 | Kubica | 1 | 2 | 3 | |
8 | Rosberg | 3 | 3 |
Pure count-back gives exactly the same top-eight order as the points, with the number of podiums still looking like the biggest title-factor.
The next table shows the points scored by the World Championship contenders over the last five events.
Driver | Score | Average | ||
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1 | Alonso | 90 | 18·8 | |
2 | Webber | 59 | 11·8 | |
3 | Vettel | 55 | 11·4 | |
4 | Hamilton | 53 | 10·6 |
If these mean averages of recent performances are multiplied by the three remaining races, added to the points the drivers currently have, and rounded to the nearest point, it gives this projection of the final tally.
1 | Alonso | 267 |
2 | Webber | 244 |
3 | Hamilton | 231 |
4 | Vettel | 228 |
With only two races left, the value of this indicator is very limited. The title will probably go to the highest placed driver that puts in two strong finishes in the last two rounds.
Alonso has won three of the last five races, plus a third and a DNF at Belgium. It seems very much his title to lose. Hamilton has always looked off his best in Brazil, and the long flat-out stretch will not suit Red Bull, so it should be another good weekend for the Spaniard.
These are the points if given to engines:
Engine | Score | Average per Team |
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1 | Mercedes | 655 | 218·3 | |
2 | Renault | 569 | 284·5 | |
3 | Ferrari | 428 | 142·7 | |
4 | Cosworth | 65 | 16·3 |
Ferrari took a 1-3 with both Saubers in the points to take 46 points. Mercedes had Hamilton, Schumacher, and Liuzzi in second, fourth, and sixth, for 38 points. Renault only got ten for Kubica’s fifth-place. Cosworth had both Williams in the points for 7.
The scores by nationality of drivers are:
Nation | Points | Scoring Drivers |
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1 | Germany | 465 | 6 |
2 | Britain | 399 | 2 |
3 | Spain | 240 | 3 |
4 | Australia | 220 | 1 |
5 | Brazil | 190 | 2 |
6 | Poland | 124 | 1 |
7 | Japan | 31 | 1 |
8 | Italy | 21 | 1 |
9 | Russia | 19 | 1 |
10 | Switzerland | 8 | 1 |
The win for Spain was enough to win the week and take third off Australia. Webber has to defend his country unaided, but Alonso can not expect much help off Alguersuari, or any more from de la Rosa. Massa and Barrichello gave Brazil 21. Hamilton gave GB 18. Sans Vettel, the German hoards still took 4th, 9th, and 10th for 15. Poland got 10. Liuzzi’s sixth-place gave eight to over-take Russia for eighth. Kobayashi added four for the Land of the Rising Sun.
This is the Nations’ Cup only counting the score of the highest driver in a race for each country. I have also decided to use 10-6-4-3-2-1, partly because I think it a better scoring regime, partly because it meant less work. Thus, for example, the McLaren 1-2 in China would give Britain 10 points for the win, nothing for second, and Rosberg’s third place would give Germany 4 points, with nothing for Vettel’s sixth place.
Nation | Points | |
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1 | Britain | 94 |
2 | Germany | 80 |
3 | Spain | 77 |
4 | Australia | 70 |
5 | Brazil | 42 |
6 | Poland | 24 |
7 | Russia | 2 |
8 | Japan | 1 |
9 | Italy | 1 |
Alonso’s win with Webber’s DNF sees Spain move up to third. It was with Monaco the second race this season to have the top-six feature six different nations. Liuzzi gave Italy its first point, remaining behind Japan on count-back.
This next table shows the standings based on qualification using current points.
1 | Vettel | 341 |
2 | Webber | 311 |
3 | Alonso | 207 |
4 | Hamilton | 192 |
5 | Button | 134 |
6 | Massa | 132 |
7 | Rosberg | 119 |
8 | Kubica | 116 |
9 | Schumacher | 48 |
10 | Barrichello | 44 |
11 | Hülkenberg | 24 |
12 | Sutil | 21 |
13 | Liuzzi | 10 |
14 | Petrov | 9 |
15 | Kobayashi | 5 |
16 | de la Rosa | 4 |
Little change in the status quo. Rosberg’s strong fifth did enable him to climb one position pushing Kubica down a place, the Pole disappointed to only qualify eighth after his car had developed a handling issue since FP3.
These are the fastest-lap points with the number of outright fastest laps in brackets.
1 | Webber | 247 | (3) |
2 | Alonso | 224 | (5) |
3 | Vettel | 216 | (3) |
4 | Hamilton | 181 | (3) |
5 | Kubica | 128 | (1) |
6 | Button | 124 | (1) |
7 | Massa | 122 | |
8 | Rosberg | 95 | |
9 | Schumacher | 72 | |
10 | Petrov | 59 | (1) |
11 | Barrichello | 54 | |
12 | Sutil | 44 | |
13 | Buemi | 42 | |
14 | Alguersuari | 39 | |
15 | Liuzzi | 26 | |
16 | Kobayashi | 19 | |
17 | Hülkenberg | 15 | |
18 | de la Rosa | 9 | |
19 | Heidfeld | 1 |
The top-five in this discipline in Korea were Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton, Massa, Liuzzi. Kubica came seventh, Button outside the top-ten, promoting the Pole to fifth. Liuzzi’s good showing took him past Kobayashi to 15th.
Click here to see my Google documents laps-and-distance-completed spreadsheet.
See also RG’s Korea update for his championship for new teams.
November 19, 2012 at 12:43 AM |
My distant relative, Billy DeVore (brother of my grandfather) was the driver in the Pat Clancy Special, shown in your pic. from around 1948-49.
November 19, 2012 at 3:48 PM |
Thank you for the comment. Unfortunately, it seems to be on the wrong post, so I have copied the comment onto the entry featuring the mentioned picture: